Comments on: The Chinese fully ignore copyrights http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/ Photos, posters, figures both other interesting and unusual decisions in the world of advertising Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:32:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Dallasdeckard http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-3574 Dallasdeckard Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:35:21 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-3574 Trinity wrote: "What happened when Microsoft outright COPIED the Mac GUI? Or when the guys from Apple copied it from the researchers at Xerox PARC?" WHOA! Way different, my friend! Parc was *experimental* and when Jobs asked permission from Xerox to look at Parc (and paid for the privilege), there was an understanding that he would use what he saw to create a new computer system. Xerox NEVER sued Apple for what they did, in fact they were rather proud that Jobs utilized their vision. Microsoft is a WHOLE other issue! John Sculley gave Jobs permission to copy *some* elements of the Mac OS, in exchange for him continuing to develop Word for the Mac, in other words Jobs blackmailed Sculley to get him to do that. However, Jobs took that agreement and basically used it to *completely* copy the Mac OS. Before that, Windows didn't have overlapping windows and stuff like that. Apple sued Microsoft and won some minor concessions, but the genie was out of the bottle and that was that. But you *cannot* compare what Microsoft did to Apple to the agreement that Jobs and Xerox had, which was *entirely* okay with Xerox. Also, if you look at the first Lisa (and the first Mac) things are VERY different. But, that doesn't matter anyway because, as I said, Xerox gave Apple PERMISSION to use what they say, and Apple PAID for that right. It was a fair and agreed upon arrangement. Totally different from the THEFT of intellectual property that occurred between Microsoft and Apple. Trinity wrote:

“What happened when Microsoft outright COPIED the Mac GUI? Or when the guys from Apple copied it from the researchers at Xerox PARC?”

WHOA! Way different, my friend! Parc was *experimental* and when Jobs asked permission from Xerox to look at Parc (and paid for the privilege), there was an understanding that he would use what he saw to create a new computer system. Xerox NEVER sued Apple for what they did, in fact they were rather proud that Jobs utilized their vision.

Microsoft is a WHOLE other issue! John Sculley gave Jobs permission to copy *some* elements of the Mac OS, in exchange for him continuing to develop Word for the Mac, in other words Jobs blackmailed Sculley to get him to do that. However, Jobs took that agreement and basically used it to *completely* copy the Mac OS. Before that, Windows didn’t have overlapping windows and stuff like that. Apple sued Microsoft and won some minor concessions, but the genie was out of the bottle and that was that.

But you *cannot* compare what Microsoft did to Apple to the agreement that Jobs and Xerox had, which was *entirely* okay with Xerox. Also, if you look at the first Lisa (and the first Mac) things are VERY different. But, that doesn’t matter anyway because, as I said, Xerox gave Apple PERMISSION to use what they say, and Apple PAID for that right. It was a fair and agreed upon arrangement. Totally different from the THEFT of intellectual property that occurred between Microsoft and Apple.

]]> By: musico http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2754 musico Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:23:47 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2754 I just have to say I'm not american,european or chinese. I'm looking at this as an emerging economy fenomena. Chinese are not new to this concepts(cars) but are new to exporting theese in a masive way to western countries. I beleve they are doing their best using desing concepts that are been generaly acepted by western countries. I will call this a low risk desicion, were they are designing cars that apeals to acepted western concepts. These are not copyrigth isues because they are not exactly the same. I will say that these chinese models are inspired on western car models. Due to globalization, the western world has been importing goods to China. Chinese are producing now what the western have show them for decades. Still, there is a huge challenge for China, and that is to compete with western world quality and satisfaction standards,that are not that good ether, but the western cutomer will not acept anything below theire satisfaction stadards. I just have to say I’m not american,european or chinese. I’m looking at this as an emerging economy fenomena. Chinese are not new to this concepts(cars) but are new to exporting theese in a masive way to western countries. I beleve they are doing their best using desing concepts that are been generaly acepted by western countries. I will call this a low risk desicion, were they are designing cars that apeals to acepted western concepts. These are not copyrigth isues because they are not exactly the same. I will say that these chinese models are inspired on western car models. Due to globalization, the western world has been importing goods to China. Chinese are producing now what the western have show them for decades. Still, there is a huge challenge for China, and that is to compete with western world quality and satisfaction standards,that are not that good ether, but the western cutomer will not acept anything below theire satisfaction stadards.

]]> By: bhum http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2712 bhum Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:12:34 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2712 China is doing a great deal for the common man who cant boast of the littlest luxury of owing western products. Western countries should stop the hypocrisies and and consider the common laborer whose toil and hardwork provide the elite with their luxuries. At least Chinese product feeds and cloth the poor and gives him a little pride as a human. Allow their product to give the poor man i little dignity of life. Should you think otherwise advise the overly greedy companies to have the impoverished in mind something obviously they cannot do for profit must be maximized. Who run to the third world countries for cheaper labor and sell their toils back to them at astronomically prices. China is doing a great deal for the common man who cant boast of the littlest luxury of owing western products. Western countries should stop the hypocrisies and and consider the common laborer whose toil and hardwork provide the elite with their luxuries. At least Chinese product feeds and cloth the poor and gives him a little pride as a human. Allow their product to give the poor man i little dignity of life. Should you think otherwise advise the overly greedy companies to have the impoverished in mind something obviously they cannot do for profit must be maximized. Who run to the third world countries for cheaper labor and sell their toils back to them at astronomically prices.

]]> By: BMW video collection http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2553 BMW video collection Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:38:07 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2553 <strong>BMW video collection...</strong> Lazy ass copy cats. They cant mess with GM coz its the worlds biggest car manufacturer. They cant mess with Rolls Royce coz BMW will be pissed and they Cant mess with honda coz honda is honda. but they can mess with daewoo. I think that we should all b... BMW video collection…

Lazy ass copy cats. They cant mess with GM coz its the worlds biggest car manufacturer. They cant mess with Rolls Royce coz BMW will be pissed and they Cant mess with honda coz honda is honda. but they can mess with daewoo. I think that we should all b…

]]> By: Why think up a new design if you can copy it? « Replica Galore http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2471 Why think up a new design if you can copy it? « Replica Galore Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:07:57 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2471 [...] Creativeadvertisingworld.com has a nice post showing some of the most blatant copies of car designs. Click here to read it. [...] […] Creativeadvertisingworld.com has a nice post showing some of the most blatant copies of car designs. Click here to read it. […]

]]> By: Nevados del sur SAC http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2400 Nevados del sur SAC Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:20:45 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2400 PERU 03 de Juniodel 2008 SEÑORES REPRESENTANTES DE LA EMPRESA ZONDA – CHINA Estamos interesados en adquirir una nueva flota de buses para la apertura de una nueva empresa de transporte de pasajeros teniendo ya la concesión de rutas bajo un perfil de proyecto, favor de remitirnos las siguientes: - precios - modelos - características - comodidades - condiciones climáticas - motor (diesel o gas natural) - ventajas y desventajas - y otros - imágenes tanto interno y externo Atentamente, Empresa de Transporte Nevados del Sur SAC Juliaca - Perú Correo electrónico: nevados-del-sur-sac@hotmail.com MASTERS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMPANY ZONDA - SMALL STONE We are interested in acquiring a new fleet of buses for the opening of a new company of passengers' transport having already the grant of routes under a profile of project, favor of sending the following ones: - Prices - models - characteristics - comforts - climatic conditions - engine (diesel or natural gas) - advantages and disadvantages - and others - images so much internal and external. Attentivly, Empresa de Transporte Nevados del Sur SAC Juliaca - Perú E-mail nevados-del-sur-sac@hotmail.com PERU 03 de Juniodel 2008

SEÑORES REPRESENTANTES DE LA EMPRESA ZONDA – CHINA

Estamos interesados en adquirir una nueva flota de buses para la apertura de una nueva empresa de transporte de pasajeros teniendo ya la concesión de rutas bajo un perfil de proyecto, favor de remitirnos las siguientes:
- precios
- modelos
- características
- comodidades
- condiciones climáticas
- motor (diesel o gas natural)
- ventajas y desventajas
- y otros
- imágenes tanto interno y externo

Atentamente,

Empresa de Transporte Nevados del Sur SAC

Juliaca - Perú
Correo electrónico: nevados-del-sur-sac@hotmail.com

MASTERS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMPANY ZONDA - SMALL
STONE
We are interested in acquiring a new fleet of buses for the opening of a new company of passengers’ transport having already the grant of routes under a profile of project, favor of sending the following ones:
- Prices - models - characteristics - comforts - climatic conditions - engine (diesel or natural gas) - advantages and disadvantages - and others - images so much internal and external.
Attentivly,
Empresa de Transporte Nevados del Sur SAC

Juliaca - Perú
E-mail nevados-del-sur-sac@hotmail.com

]]> By: *so you all know that I am GOD http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2370 *so you all know that I am GOD Wed, 28 May 2008 07:20:58 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2370 As such it is better for the chinese cars to be introduced into the international market as they will be very much affordable As such it is better for the chinese cars to be introduced into the international market as they will be very much affordable

]]> By: Empresa Nevados del Sur SAC http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2353 Empresa Nevados del Sur SAC Fri, 23 May 2008 20:23:21 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2353 Perú 23 de mayo de 2008 – Juliaca Estimated Masters Representatives of the Company of buses Zonda Very interesting his(her,your) page we us would be interested in connecting and knowing very deeply on the pro forma one of the bus Neoplan Starliner vs Zonda A9 That shows us: designs, characteristics, comforts, capacities, and the whole equipment(equipping) so much internal and external divides(departs) the service of passengers' transport. And also advantages and disadvantages show climatic conditions, and the functioning of the engine to diesel and natural gas. Attentivly, Gerente de Nevados del Sur SAC. nevados-del-sur-sac@hotmail.com * We wait for his(her,your) prompt response Perú 23 de mayo de 2008 – Juliaca
Estimated Masters Representatives of the Company of buses Zonda
Very interesting his(her,your) page we us would be interested in connecting and knowing very deeply on the pro forma one of the bus Neoplan Starliner vs Zonda A9 That shows us: designs, characteristics, comforts, capacities, and the whole equipment(equipping) so much internal and external divides(departs) the service of passengers’ transport. And also advantages and disadvantages show climatic conditions, and the functioning of the engine to diesel and natural gas.
Attentivly,
Gerente de Nevados del Sur SAC.

nevados-del-sur-sac@hotmail.com

* We wait for his(her,your) prompt response

]]> By: isuzu rodeo http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2332 isuzu rodeo Sun, 18 May 2008 21:17:10 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2332 the vauxhall/opel frontera and the landwind are totally different they just look the same cuz i have a 2001 isuzu rodeo (american version of vauxhall/opel frontera) and i was in a crash at 55 mph and it didnt get destroyed like the landwind so at least they only steal the look. the vauxhall/opel frontera and the landwind are totally different they just look the same cuz i have a 2001 isuzu rodeo (american version of vauxhall/opel frontera) and i was in a crash at 55 mph and it didnt get destroyed like the landwind so at least they only steal the look.

]]> By: smartcars http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2304 smartcars Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:51 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2304 [...] smartcar, etc...See how closely their cars resemble cars from other manufacturers around the world.http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/Flickr: Smart carsIt&39s time for a revolution in transportation and Smart cars will certainly be [...] […] smartcar, etc…See how closely their cars resemble cars from other manufacturers around the world.http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/Flickr: Smart carsIt&39s time for a revolution in transportation and Smart cars will certainly be […]

]]> By: HemiPower http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2273 HemiPower Tue, 06 May 2008 08:36:24 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2273 The Chinese have the ability to produce the best in the world just as we other countries. What happens when we ask the Chinese to manufacture something at a cheaper price is this; Produce 10,000 childrens toys of one design, ie a toy car of the latest Mercedes SLK. Now they cannot make more than 10,000 items but by ignoring the quality control originaly set up, they can then introduce cheaper materials with complete disregard to the consequenses. Thus increasing the companies and shareholders profits. China listen ! you have not lost face you have thrown it away, hopefully you will kill the golden goose, cook it and eat it then hopefully go back to being the third world economy you so deserve. Unfortunately people will continue to buy your inferior products simply because they are cheap. Thry making something with more than one part that is A,value for money,B, lasts more than the warrenty and people can proudly say "Made in China" The Chinese have the ability to produce the best in the world just as we other countries.
What happens when we ask the Chinese to manufacture something at a cheaper price is this; Produce 10,000 childrens toys of one design, ie a toy car of the latest Mercedes SLK. Now they cannot make more than 10,000 items but by ignoring the quality control originaly set up, they can then introduce cheaper materials with complete disregard to the consequenses. Thus increasing the companies and shareholders profits.
China listen ! you have not lost face you have thrown it away, hopefully you will kill the golden goose, cook it and eat it then hopefully go back to being the third world economy you so deserve.
Unfortunately people will continue to buy your inferior products simply because they are cheap.
Thry making something with more than one part that is A,value for money,B, lasts more than the warrenty and people can proudly say “Made in China”

]]> By: www.icdl-direct.com http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2225 www.icdl-direct.com Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:13:35 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2225 <strong>www.icdl-direct.com...</strong> This actually ties into an interesting post Mr Cowen authored a while ago on the strategy of book cover design-- well worth reading if you haven't already. The question as it relates to this conversation is then: can you judge a book by its blogger? L... www.icdl-direct.com…

This actually ties into an interesting post Mr Cowen authored a while ago on the strategy of book cover design– well worth reading if you haven’t already. The question as it relates to this conversation is then: can you judge a book by its blogger? L…

]]> By: Miguel http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2173 Miguel Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:41:29 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2173 Well It might seen odd but what about Harley-Davidson and a Chiniese imitation well I heard that people never had a problem with a Chinese imitation of a Harley compare to people that do have problems with a real Harley what about the Ford Mustang do Geely make a great imitation of a Ford Mustang, well I do give a shit about Chinese imitations even in cars and motorcycles it is time to defend the American industry the best solution is to do with China is what the US did to Cuba embago. Well It might seen odd but what about Harley-Davidson and a Chiniese imitation well I heard that people never had a problem with a Chinese imitation of a Harley compare to people that do have problems with a real Harley what about the Ford Mustang do Geely make a great imitation of a Ford Mustang, well I do give a shit about Chinese imitations even in cars and motorcycles it is time to defend the American industry the best solution is to do with China is what the US did to Cuba embago.

]]> By: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2008 - Erlebnisblog.de http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2060 Frankfurt Musikmesse 2008 - Erlebnisblog.de Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:43:45 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2060 [...] möglichst viele billige Produkte zu bauen, die den bekannten Topmodellen stark ähneln. Man kennt das ja. (Wichtig: Die Japaner sind völlig anders, hier kommen die starken Marken wie Roland und [...] […] möglichst viele billige Produkte zu bauen, die den bekannten Topmodellen stark ähneln. Man kennt das ja. (Wichtig: Die Japaner sind völlig anders, hier kommen die starken Marken wie Roland und […]

]]> By: Mr XiaoMin http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2043 Mr XiaoMin Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:49:44 +0000 http://creativeadvertisingworld.com/bmw-7-vs-byd-f6/#comment-2043 Chinanes are known thieves for centuries, they had stolen from Asia and now they are paying back Chinanes are known thieves for centuries, they had stolen from Asia and now they are paying back

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